| For you surely would not regard the skilled mathematician as a dialectician? |
| More so, both will only rely on common places as such, in so far as they are less well trained and prepared as dialectician or orator. |
| Etc... This is a more immediate preparation for the discussion, and the dialectician as well as the orator will aim for it as much as possible. |
| It's in this endox that the dialectician, according to Aristotle, will find his proper evidence. |
| For example, the dialectician or the orator discuss the problem of the preferable, or the useful, or the just. |
| From any one of these sources the dialectician may borrow premisses for syllogizing. |
